ALAN WATT TRANSCRIPT
JEFF RENSE INTERVIEWS ALAN WATT
March 22, 2007

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Jeff:  Okay, welcome back and it's a pleasure to welcome a new voice to the program.  He is Alan Watt, W-A-T-T.  Alan was recommended to me by several people and I'm very pleased we'll spend some time with him to get to know him just like you will as well.  He is an iconoclast as it were, an unusual man who sees things very clearly and I'm sure many of you will appreciate exactly what he has to say.  It's great to hear a fresh perspective on things we deal with constantly on this program.  We can never hear too many honest perspectives and true insight.  Alan, welcome to the program.

Alan:  It's a pleasure to be here.  Thanks for asking me on.

Jeff:  It's my pleasure and if you go to Alan Watt's website, just click on his name.  It is cuttingthroughthematrix.com, you'll read something at the top I want to underscore because this is really important.  Most of the people in the truth movement, whatever angle they're working, who are sincere, who are honest, are not making any money at it.  They're doing this basically out of their own pocket, if they have any pockets to go to, and at the top of Alan's website he has just a note here for people.  It says:  "Your support finances this information into existence. Each bootleg copy of the books, CDs, and DVDs starves the source into closing down. Your choice. I can return to teaching small groups in person in order to survive. I receive no payment for all the guest appearances on radio and TV which are available for free download.  So, play fair, help the source." and I would underscore that. We need to all play fair and support people who are working on all of our behalf to try to shake the lethargy off of what's left of the thinking American public and it's no mean feat. It's a very tough task and Alan is one of the people working very hard to do that.  So my friend, you're here and we're all ears as it were and cuttingthroughthematrix.com rather sums it up.

When did you become aware of the great game that was going on?  Not that it's a game of fun. It’s a very deadly game.

Alan:  Really, as far back as I can remember I knew that things weren't as they appeared, even from childhood, just by observing adults and watching and listening to what the arguments were about and being brought up in Britain especially I thought, well, an empire apparently was ruled by London for centuries and how come in all these working class areas everyone was just scraping by to pay their rent, their bare essentials. They didn't have credit cards back then--

Jeff:  Wage slaves even then.

Alan:  Yes, and yet when you’re small and you visit your friends' homes, you're ignored by the adults so you can listen and every house I went into I could hear their parents arguing about the same basic things.

Jeff:  Alan Watt, the fly on the wall.

Alan:  Yes and of course it didn't take too long to dawn that you lived in "a rigged system" where even the wages were rigged. You could go from one end of the country to the other in any occupation and there was always a starting wage and a maximum wage, which had to be fixed and organized too, and supposedly they called it "a free market," so it was an oxymoron. If it was a free market there'd be all kinds of incentives; they were not there.

Jeff:  Right. Fixed wages. That should be a giveaway for anyone looking at a paradigm to walk into. You're right. What we have going on here is – I guess if we completely lose our sense of humor we're finished. We have to laugh at some of it. It is so despicable and so absurd. Alan Greenspan and I have the story. I don't know if you happen to see it or not, just the other day. I'll try to find it, said that he wanted more foreign workers of technical skills brought into the country to lower the wages paid to American skilled workers because they were too high. They need to equalize everything. That's his solution to people who work their entire lives to train themselves to become skilled and to get ahead. His solution is to bring in more visa workers from India and all over the world to work at one-fourth the salary to knock that terrible wage that these people are earning down to a more equitable shall we say Communistic level, which is what it's all about. This is all collectivism.

Alan:  Collectivism – it's a fascist elite, a "pathocracy" is the proper term for them.

Jeff:  Pathocracy.  Very good.

Alan:  They are technically psychopaths and they are hereditary psychopaths that buddied up a long time ago and they breed with each other, and this is an area of psychology that's been persecuted in fact even behind the Iron Curtain when it was on the go. Some of them then had to ask, how come these leaders always end up as utter butchers? and then they went into a field of psychopathy and realized this wasn't a new idea. Many had studied Napoleon and other tyrants who came under popular demand and then went a different direction, and then you find out that there's a fringe group in every generation of very intelligent people. If they're born into families who already exist with power, they are psychopathic and they hold on to their power; but they employ from the lower classes of psychopaths the bureaucracies and the military characters to keep their power intact. This is an area as I say that no one wants to touch. They have certain MOs [modus operandi] in every era. They always have their wars ongoing. They always pick what appears to be a moral stance and they always turn their own countries into prison states because they're terrified of the public. That's the bottom line with pathocracies.

Jeff:  That's a great term, pathocracy. I'll remember that. The issue of bluebloods and people of – I'm not going to say upper caste, but people of money and power and greed and psychopathy do stay together, do breed together. It’s all in the family and for those of you out there again who are Al Gore supporters, that's fine, but understand that Al Gore ran with Joe Lieberman in the year 2000. Now if that doesn't tell you an awful lot you're not listening. Your ears are plugged and your eyes are closed. Now let's follow that just a half step further and bring it closer to Gore's family. Who did Al Gore's daughter marry? I told you folks this before. Al Gore's daughter married the grandson of Jacob Schiff, okay. If you don't know who Jacob Schiff is, Google search it. It's all in the family. This is one small strata of people in the Western world and probably the Eastern world as well who maintain almost diabolically complete control over billions of people and uncountable resources. It's extraordinary. So again, these people play together, they stay together, they marry within their caste and that's how they perpetuate it.

Oh, here's the Greenspan story. Let me just read this for a moment if I might, Alan Watt, and this is fascinating. Alan Greenspan is worried about – now think about this, alright. Think about communism, fascism whatever label you want to hang. It's a little bit blurry these days but let me read this story to you.

              "Alan Greenspan is worried about income inequalities in the United States. But before you jump up with joy that Greenspan is finally speaking out against the skyrocketing salaries of CEOs, hold your celebrations for another time!

             Greenspan's big worry is that "skilled workers" get paid way too much compared to the rest of our population. Judging by Greenspan's comments, when he talks about "skilled workers" he isn't talking about CEOs and other assorted corporate fat-cats that earn multi-million dollar salaries -- he is probably talking about you.

            Give Greenspan credit for one thing -- he not only identifies our national problems he offers 'solutions'! Of course, if you happen to be a skilled worker, Greenspan's solution won't sound too appealing. The hero of the corporatocrats and plutocrats wants to distribute your income into the hands of needy billionaires by using H-1B visa 'skilled workers' to knock you off your haughty middle-class pedestal. Clever, huh?

Here's what Greenspan said:

             "Our skilled wages are higher than anywhere in the world. If we open up a significant window for skilled workers, that would suppress the skilled-wage level and end the concentration of income in America."

Well there you have it. Now, what do you call that Alan?

Alan:  Well this is just the agenda. See, they've written about this agenda for years. Many of their own members have written about the agenda. These books are never made popular by the media, who'd rather have us focusing on what's happening in Hollywood, but the Brzezinski's, the Jacque Attali's who wrote about the unification of America back in 1990, and he was the Kissinger of Europe, Jacque Attali. He spearheaded the European Union. He said, the next boat people leaving, traveling the world would be Americans looking for work abroad. That's what he said when they eventually bring the borders down. You're watching the global plantation come into view.

Jeff:  What is his name again?

Alan:  Jacque Attali.  A-t-t-a-l-i. He wrote "Millennium," that was about the American Union.

Jeff:   All right. That's 17 years ago, so they don't really hide much anymore. They put it out there but in the rush of media frenzied self-aggrandizement most Americans don't see it, couldn't care less, really.

Alan:  That's the media's job.

Jeff:  It is exactly. It's a diversionary drug and we'll be right back with Alan Watt. Welcome back to our conversation with Alan Watt. Alan is a long-term researcher into the causative forces behind major changes in historical development. Born in Scotland, he watched the subtleties of politics and media as they guided the population of the U.K. covertly into a European Amalgamation.  He has been warning the North American people for some years now that the same process of amalgamation is being carried out; and boy do we see it now. It is right there rearing its multi-headed faces into our faces, Alan, it's called the North American Union. They've rolled right out – it's right there in broad daylight. No more subtlety, no more stealth. It's there and they're pushing it and it's coming.

Alan:  It's coming and they've prepared for years for any fallout from the American people by building up massive internal armies, myriads of them under different names to deal with the problem which they foresee. Europe went through – pretty well they were fooled to the bitter end and even when the countries voted against the European Union they were told they were going to get it anyway. However, they didn't do much more than complain about it, but they do expect some problems within the U.S.

Jeff:  I was surprised and remain so and I did indicate that on a number of occasions in the past, at how easily Europe was steamrolled. I thought that the countries of the EU had more backbone. I thought that they had – well certainly they had centuries and centuries of history, of artistic, literary, scientific achievement. They had catastrophes like all nations but my God these countries were almost each in their own way in terms of their history and so on and they folded up like a house of cards. At least that's how it appeared over here.

Alan:  That's how it appeared. However, you see what was released after the union was complete and the parliament was set up, they declassified the documentation to do with the union which had been started. It had been signed actually in 1945 under the UN auspices--

Jeff:  Really.

Alan:  And each country in Europe had a covert department which officially set up in 1948 with bureaucrats working across the channel with each other and having annual meetings as they gradually set this up, and it stated right there when they declassified it that "the public must never be told the truth until it was all complete and finished."

Jeff:  That was a 50-year plan.

Alan:  That was a 50-year plan. These guys work with 50, 100-year plans, just like the Soviet Union did and just like the United Nations did, and this is how it works you see and first they introduced decimalization into Britain many years before. I knew that was the start of it as they changed the currency and then everything went metric; and sure enough, each prime minister lied and lied and lied and denied they were actually uniting. That was their job because governments do not serve the people. They never have in actual fact. They serve a plutocracy of these psychopaths basically. They're picked and vetted by them before the public even see them to vote for.

Jeff:  Correct. And on the odd occasion when someone does get through who is unique, who is outspoken, who doesn't want to play the game, they don't get far or they're eliminated. That's the bottom line.

Alan:  Absolutely, absolutely. And because, once again, even the higher bureaucrats are picked. They're given psychological examinations. They know they have psychopathic qualities and traits so they're also picked because they will only serve their paymaster and they have no conscious as to what's to be done to the people beneath them. This is how this entire structure works today.

Jeff:  Sure. Many of them of course are tricked, compromised and then blackmailed or threatened with same. The methods of control are certainly many but the bottom of the issue is always one of control when you boil it down to talking about control. They can control anybody they want at anytime and if they can’t, they’ll kill them.

Alan:  They kill them and also if you go into Aldous Huxley who was one of them and he was descended from Sir Thomas Huxley who chose the main authors to write fiction and non-fiction for predictive programming purposes to get the public to go along with these agendas. He chose H.G. Wells in fact and Huxley said himself at Berkeley, he says, I don't see why a scientifically run dictatorship could not exist forever. He said the reason the elite in past ages failed is because they couldn't supply enough bread and circuses to the people, but he says under a scientifically controlled dictatorship where you can get children from kindergarten and indoctrinate them scientifically and then you get the culture industry which gives them their culture, then he says there's no reason why it should ever fail.

Jeff:  Who was it, Stalin or Lenin, who said, I don't care about your adults, give me the children and we'll take care of it from there.

Alan:  He said that after, in fact, Ignatius Loyola also said the same thing. He said, "give me a child before the age of seven and I'll make him into whatever I wish."

Jeff:  That's right. That's exactly right.

Alan:  The techniques never change because they do work you see.

Jeff:  Oh, they work perfectly, cradle to grave now and the scientific aspect of world dictatorship, which I don't care what – I mentioned earlier, labels. Labels mean next to nothing anymore.  It's all about power and control. That's what it is.

Alan:  For total control. It was Beria who was the head of the Secret Police in the old Soviet Union in the 1930's when it was the NKVD. He said at Comintern (internationalist communists) meeting, he said "we can now alter the culture and upgrade it every five years, where it used to take us 70 years to make one change."

Jeff:  And when did he say this?

Alan:  1933.

Jeff:  Wow. I guess that's about the time Tavistock cranked out its engines as well.  Social engineering. Edward L. Bernays of course the "father of spin, the father of mass propaganda," practiced by the Germans but practiced just as well as the Germans did by practically every other so-called major power on the planet. The Chinese had a goal, the Communist Chinese to put a television in every home by the year 2001 and I believe they met that goal and they know. We'll talk more about TV perhaps with Alan Watt and many other things in just a few minutes. Glad you're along. Don't go away. Visit Alan's website at cuttingthroughthematrix.com.

Okay, welcome back. Talking with Alan Watt. Before we talk about television, Alan, on your website many of your listings on the left are topic oriented but you always have, almost always have, musical selections, a song or something which states the issue or at least leads the way and further amplifies the matters under discussion. There's one that I ran into on Google Video written by Leonard Cohen. I don't know the name of the song.

Alan:  On my site?

Jeff:  It's Reality Check with Alan Watt.

Alan: He has a few there. He has "The Future." He puts it all into one song called "The Future."

Jeff:  Yes, that's what it is.  "You don't know me from the wind"--

Alan:  That's right.

Jeff:  "You never will, you never did. I'm the little Jew who wrote the Bible. I've seen the nations rise and fall. I've heard their stories, heard them all, but love's the only engine of survival. Your servant here, he has been told to say it clear to say it cold, it's over, it ain't going any further. And now the wheels of heaven stop, you feel the devil's riding crop, get ready for the future, it is murder. Things are going to slide in all directions. Won't be nothing, nothing you can't measure anymore. The blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned the order of the soul. When they said repent, I wonder what they meant."  Interesting set of lyrics.

Alan:  Yes, Leonard knows what's going on.

Jeff:   He does.

Alan:  He's well aware. He's well aware of the culture industry's part in all of this because we do have a culture industry and so did our parents that guided us all up to this point and gave us our ideas. We copy the fashions. We copy the sayings, the dances.

Jeff:  Culture industry/religion.

Alan:  Yes, and a lot of what Leonard takes too is from the mysteries and the Talmud because there's a lot of truth in there too and it's all to do with the inner religion of the elite at the top because they do have an inner religion, which I think it was Bush, Sr. when he gave his first New World Order speech on 9-11-1990. Odd date to give it and then he repeated it the following year on 9-11 as well.

Jeff:  Come on. He did?

Alan:  Yes he did.

Jeff:  What are the odds, folks?

Alan:  Yes and we're supposed to take this all as usual and that's when he said, "I see a New World Order coming into view," but he also added that "it's all going to the heavenly plan" and they never explain to the public and of course the media know not to ask what he really meant. He's given a high decree to the high order of occultic masonry at the top, the high degree type, and it's going to the zodiac. The zodiac is a time clock and every figure they have in the zodiac has nothing to do with telling your future. That's the lower thing for the people to believe in. Each part of the zodiac is part of the plan and we're now going into the Age of Aquarius.

Jeff:  Oh really.

Alan:  And that's the whole point of it. During the Age of Aquarius, why do you think they waited until recently to bring up the homosexual movement to prominence?

Jeff:  They certainly did that about 20-25 years ago. It began on television with – what was that old TV sitcom that was the first – two gals and a guy and the guy was played a young John Ritter who was – he was homosexual?

Alan:  Three's Company.

Jeff:  That was it. Three's Company. That was one of the first one I remember seeing which pushed it and I said okay like you did. Here it is. This is the first of an avalanche that's coming.

Alan:  Then you had the lesbian movement which actually demonstrated for the rights of homosexuals. No one could figure this one out because they were all funded to do this, by the way.  Because in the Age of Aquarius, Aquarius is actually a male god who was the most beautiful boy who lived in the Grecian Islands and he was raped by Zeus, it was a homosexual rape, and placed into the heavens and this is the time for the new man to come forward. That's why the Age of Aquarius is what it is.

Jeff:  They're also portraying man and have portrayed males on television now especially in these sitcoms. I have another word for it, but they portrayed them of course as weak and subservient to the domineering female. This has become a feminist culture to a large degree and elevating homosexuality – especially male homosexuality has been a key component of this for a long time. The destruction of the nuclear family in the United States with the breadwinning male and the supportive and steadfast wife and the children, that's over. That's really ancient history now. It's all gone.

Alan:  One month before 9/11 happened, it was in the newspapers a little few paragraphs about an International Censorship Meeting. Now most people think they're own Department of Censorship for television, radio et cetera is to protect your culture. That's what we presume.

Jeff:  We would.

Alan:  However, at this meeting they stated "we have broken through the barriers for various rights for homosexual and lesbians and that we're now pushing the next step which will be for intergenerational sex" and that would be promoted on television. The following day in the newspapers one professor in Toronto, one in I think Harvard in the states both gave the exact same speech in different newspapers to back up this very thing. Our censorship committees do not work for the people. They're there to test the waters to see if it's ready to push the next part of the envelope.

Jeff:  How low can they go?  That's amazing.

Alan:  We are guided. Our thoughts are not ours. Even those groups who think they're benefiting are being used to destroy the old to bring in the new, which is a completely isolated individual in society with no small tribe to back him up. No family even to back him up. The government will talk directly down to you and that makes it much easier for those at the top to control everyone.

Jeff:  The issue of dominance is now made so easy. There are very few random events anymore, but there are accidents of course, but in general any large political issue or geo-military issue is usually well planned out in advance. There are a few resisters on the planet. North Korea perhaps. Although they are certainly the agent of the Communist Chinese in many ways. The Iranians. Saddam Hussein was one. The Taliban made the mistake of not saying yes sir at the right time. It's all an articulated setup, folks. Back in just a minute with Alan Watt.

Okay, back with Alan Watt and go to Rense.com, click on Alan Watt, his name and you go right to his website cuttingthroughthematrix.com. A lot of material there. Very interesting indeed and if you're not able to click on his name just hit reload and make sure your load that page frequently. Things change often at Rense.com. Usually, it's the news that changes but we often change other things as well.

Alan, what about television and the media? Let's talk more about this. Our young people now are absolutely reverential towards these really vile, hideous, vapid, role models that are shoved down their little intellectual mental conscious throats 24 hours a day. These people that are put up there as role models are in so many cases as you've indicated fully deserving of the term "psychopathic." They're mentally aberrant. They're certainly sexually aberrant in many ways. There are hardly good role models there for our young people and yet that's what worries me. With the government school system now being as crude as it is and as effective as it is with the curricula that it is offering, I don't know how our young people really have much of a chance anymore. Do they?

Alan:  To be honest, they don't. In fact, the generation that's up-and-coming have less chance than the previous ones because within every generation they've targeted literally the brain through inoculation and it's a horrific thing or conclusion to come to, but when you go through the history of inoculations you come across people like Salk who gave us the polio vaccine supposedly and then you follow the rise of autism that followed in its wake and the amount of different learning disabilities. These are all literally levels of autism and then you couple in Salk's background.

This man was a member of the World Eugenics Society.

Jeff:  He was right in there.

Alan:  He was a true believer in culling back the "lessers" at the bottom, which is always the fear of the elite: that the amount of ordinary people will overwhelm the psychopathic crew that run the world. Suddenly he comes out as the benefactor of society supposedly and then you find that they knew that there was over a hundred odd live simian viruses in every polio shot--

Jeff:  SV-40.

Alan:  They also knew exactly what each one would do the human body. Then you come across writings by people like Arthur Koestler who worked for the elite. He worked for think tanks at the United Nations. His job was to find ways to bring viruses or bacterium or chemicals and guide them to specific parts of the human brain to lobotomize them and he said "to lobotomize that part of the brain that makes you, you, your higher critical analytical capabilities would be gone. This must be done to the general population for world peace."

Then you go into his history before he worked for the United Nations and New York and this man was an officer under Stalin who tells you in his own book, "The Ghost in the Machine, that he helped to bring on the starvation, the massacre of millions through starvations in Hungary under the orders of Stalin and he put down to historical necessity. They had to be wiped out so they starved them to death and he felt nothing. Well the man never changed his whole life because he was a psychopath and he truly believed that his job was to find ways to lobotomize physically every ordinary human being on the planet and he said that his team at the United Nations was only one team working on the same problem. He said, "we have the methods to do it. We can target any area perfectly. All we have to do now is to decide whether to keep using inoculations, add it to water or the food supply," in his own book.

Jeff:  Right. Well like I say, no stealth. It's really all out there. They don't hide it. That's the bizarre part about this. They just know that very few people are going to go looking for it and even those who find it will have very little success gaining any kind of media access through which they can publicize it in and who’s going to believe it anyway?

Alan:  Well that's what Brzezinski said in his own book. Now Brzezinski's a big player in all of this. You find the same people never retire from being advisors to governments and presidents. That's their jobs. Being good psychopaths, they have certain skills.

Jeff:  And look at the crew in Washington now. How many have been there for decades?

Alan:  Yes. You've got a real crew of top-rate psychopaths there who've been behind many wars and many murders and they sleep well at night like good psychopaths and they don't need sleeping pills. Scary.

Jeff:  It's amazing. I have up at "featured stories" at Rense.com a number of very important – it's an excellent line of stories and material that I would urge all of you to read. One of them is particularly fascinating to me because I've been aware of this for quite some time and as you know Alan and as many of you folks know, when you see it in print and they talk about their experimenting with that maybe someday they'll be able to do something it usually means they've already done it--

Alan:  It's already done.

Jeff:  It's old news. Now the ABC news story is entitled "Erasing the Pain of the Past." Scientists Are Developing – read Developed – have developed – Drugs That Could Eliminate Traumatic Events From Our Memories.

             "I'd take it in a second," said Sgt. Michael Walcott, an Iraq War veteran, referring to an experimental drug with the potential to target and erase traumatic memories.  Walcott, who served in a Balad-based transportation unit in Iraq that regularly took mortar fire, now suffers from PTSD. Since returning to the United States two years ago, he has been on antidepressants--"

That's another tool by the way of global control and governance. "And in group therapy as he tries to put his life back together and heal from the psychological scars of war." It goes on from there but the bottom line is that they are now on the verge of formally announcing medications that will help people forget. Now it's not hard for you to imagine where this is going to go. Talk about the old communist term of "rehabilitating someone," Alan.

Alan:  There's no doubt about it. It started after Korea in fact with a psychiatrist who became famous in the industry for bringing out in about five-minutes post-orbital lobotom