ALAN WATT

ON

"RUDE AWAKENING"

WITH

BLACK KRISHNA

RYERSON UNIVERSITY - TORONTO, CANADA

CKLN - 88.1 FM

(Hours 1 & 2)

(Recorded October 2, 2007)

October 4, 2007

WWW.CUTTINGTHROUGHTHEMATRIX.COM

www.alanwattsentientsentinel.eu

"Everyone Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears

Welcome to your life
There's no turning back
Even while we sleep
We will find you
Acting on your best behaviour
Turn your back on mother nature
Everybody wants to rule the world

It's my own design
It's my own remorse
Help me to decide
Help me make the most
Of freedom and of pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world

There's a room where the light won't find you
Holding hands while the walls come tumbling down
When they do I'll be right behind you
So glad we've almost made it
So sad they had to fade it
Everybody wants to rule the world

I can't stand this indecision
Married with a lack of vision
Everybody wants to rule the world

Say that you'll never, never, never, need it
One headline why believe it?
Everybody wants to rule the world
All for freedom and for pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world

Black Krishna:  Here we are, CKLN listeners, on October 2, 2007. I have the absolute privilege of speaking with Mr. Alan Watt, a Canadian National Treasure and gift to the world at cuttingthroughthematrix.com. Mr. Watt, I hope you're not bothered by flattery. I really do love your work and your thoughts on sort of where we are today and how we got here.

Alan:  How we got here is the most incredible journey because we got here through about 100 years of planning by big foundations in conjunction with big business, which really were one and the same thing. The foundations were in bed from the beginning with international corporatism, and they planned and wrote about it too. They planned about a tri-parted world a 100-odd years ago and how they would get there through creating big institutions and foundations, which, remember, they outlive any one generation and they have a mandate, therefore they can go on for many generations with the same mandate and bring it all to pass.

Then you go into the 1800’s where Britain looked towards this up-and-coming thing called democracy, which they thought was going to be a nuisance, with all the arguing and in-fighting they'd never get their big plans made. Therefore, they had a parallel government set-up chartered by the British Crown and one of the groups was the Cecile Rhodes Foundation, which took over the mineral and the diamond rights and gold rights of Africa, but they also had ones for India and other parts of the world and for the Americas too. Then at the beginning of the First World War they had the League of Nations. That was pushed by all the members of The Royal Institute for International Affairs, the big British Crown organization with its American counterpart The Council on Foreign Relations, and they wanted a global government set-up with three trading blocs: A united Europe would be first, followed by a united Americas and then a united Pacific Rim region; and they set-up organizations to bring all that about.

Now I don't know if you saw the CBC news, in fact this year, since 2005, 2006 and 2007 they found that the presidents and prime ministers of the Americas had got together to further integrate the NAFTA amalgamation; and for the first time this year, The Council on Foreign Relations came out as a non-governmental body admitting that they drafted up the legislation for the integration for the Americas and gave it to the governments to sign. Now where's the democracy here?

Black Krishna:  Absolutely, and with respect to that, it seems to me like the shadow government is the key to this. People need to understand that. Can you explain to people who don't believe that there is a secret bureaucracy that truly controls the leads of power, who they are and how they operate?

Alan:  What they did, and Margaret Thatcher explained this in Massey Hall in Ontario about 1991 or '92. She gave a lecture entitled "The New World Order" and it was published on a Sunday in the "Toronto Sun," and I was amazed that it even got into print. I think the editor must have been off that day, but it was a closed forum basically for round table members. That's part of The Council on Foreign Relations. They call them the Round Table Society. They do the debating and find out ways to actually put all this stuff into plans and make it work.  Margaret Thatcher said, we, the retired politicians, never leave government. She says, we are the parallel government. She says, with all our years of experience we know all the other prime ministers and premiers of all countries and we therefore form another parallel government that's not responsible to the people, and therefore, because they're outside of party politics, she said, we can plan things and make them happen and pull them off quickly. It's more efficient; and that's exactly what The Royal Institute for International Affairs was set-up to do 100-odd years ago.

Black Krishna:  Right, and The Royal Institute for International Affairs essentially runs the world through their satellite arms like the Trilateral Commission and The Council on Foreign Relations. Basically, Mr. Watt, even though most activists out there and others, I guess most of the people in the world, think America runs everything. In fact, it's England.

Alan:  It's England. If you've noticed over the last 15 years or so, every major figure or president of the U.S. or even guys like Kissinger or vice presidents go over to Britain to be knighted once their term in office is over. Why is that so important? Apart from that, it's unconstitutional according to the American Constitution for any of them to be involved as advisers or politicians and take foreign titles, yet they've been doing this for years, but it's very important for them to go and do so.  We also find that even the ex-premiere of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev, went over and got knighted as well.  That's the central hub of all of this.  Then you go back into the Free Trade Agreements, who came up with it. John Dee presented it to Queen Elizabeth I in the 16th century. He gave us the term "The British Empire" and he said it would be based on free trade, where countries who would come in would have to eventually adopt the same monarchial system, the feudal type system, but they'll be given special privileges on duty imports et cetera if they joined. He also said that ones that came in from the Far East would be given 'most favored nation status.'  That was printed in the 16th century and here we have China today being granted 'most favored nation status.'  They haven't changed a bit of this whole plan.

Black Krishna:  Unbelievable. It's funny. We're speaking with Alan Watt from cuttingthroughthematrix.com. I strongly recommend going there and downloading all of his work as much as he lets you, and of course supporting him by purchasing whatever you can, because regardless of whether or not you look at it now, it may come in handy if the economy collapses and the internet goes down. So to all the listeners out there, please do that.  Mr. Watt has worked very hard to get this information out there.

Yes, it seems, Mr. Watt, that there's an old saying in the British Empire where they talked about America. They said they have all the bombs, but we have all the brains. Would you say that our socialization even here, even though it seems to be coming out of Hollywood and MTV, it is in fact designed in England?

Alan:  It’s designed in England because back in the late '60’s they had one meeting, a global meeting for all The Council on Foreign Relations and The Royal Institute of International Affairs. Remember, all commonwealth countries have its own institute for international affairs. We have a Canadian Institute for International Affairs. It's all the same organization. We have them in India. We have them in Australia, New Zealand and so on. They had a global meeting held in London, printed in the newspapers at the time, to decide which country—the United States or England—would promote the new culture for the global society through movies, big magazines, music and the arts and so on.  I think they held it for two to three weeks and then they published their findings and said that they decided that Hollywood and the music industry based in Los Angeles and in New York would be given the right to give the global culture, create the global culture through arts and entertainment to the whole world.

Black Krishna:  Let's talk about that for a second, Mr. Watt, because, as you obviously know, Hollywood and America is exporting their culture at an exponential rate. It's dominating. I mean they have things like the McDonald's Theory of Diplomacy, where two countries with a MacDonald's won't go to war. That's supposed to be the reason for every country to have a McDonald's, so on an academic level and on a sort of Plebian level it's being sold as the thing to do for world peace and yet it never seems to result in that.

How controlled is it in Hollywood? Are all the actors we see on TV, all the models being promoted in our newspapers, are they in some way affiliated with these groups that are planning our socialization?

Alan:  Some of them understand it. Susan Sarandon, for instance, she came out at the same time, the same awards ceremony that others came out and spoke against the war with Iraq and she did use the term, the proper term that I haven't heard outside the old Soviet Union. She said, "We being part of the culture creation industry because we are the culture creators" she said. That's how she started her little talk off. Some them understand what their purpose is. It's not to entertain us. It's to do predictive programming. Now the producers and the writers certainly do know what they're there for. There's no problem there. They understand perfectly their role is to create a culture by familiarizing us along fictitious lines with ideas which are yet to come, and that's called predictive programming.

It was started off in Tavistock Institute in London, England, and they found that they could actually put ideas in plays and movies on science fiction ideas, and when the real thing came along in your life, because you were vaguely familiar with the idea, you accepted it much more easily. You didn't question it. That's called predictive programming. You'll find that almost every movie you watch, yes, it will catch you up with the usual hero and the heroine, the bad guys, the good guys, but there's always a twist in there to do with science or a new type of technology which we must all comply with, or a future society with totalitarian ID cards everywhere, or even implanted chips. This is called predictive programming, so the public eventually go along with this step-by-step and think it's inevitable that it's somehow normal.

Black Krishna:  Yes. I suppose we remember certain things that we saw in the movies. I recently saw "Resident Evil Extinction" where the British, German and American elite were hiding in underground bunkers miles under the surface of the earth after having killed most of the population. Turned a bunch of the rest into zombies and leaving a few stragglers to hunt for supplies up there and they were just trying figure out how to get back up. I mean do you see this as a possible future with a sort of advances in bio weapons and nuclear technology?

Alan:  The scary thing is, the more you dig in to the big published authors, the people who spoke on behalf of the old global aristocracy, especially the European aristocracy. People like Charles Galton Darwin, in his book "The Next Million Years," he goes through this scenario, very Malthusian in content, and he goes along with the idea of the necessity of culling off the "useless eaters" as he termed them. He and Bertrand Russell both belonged to The Royal Institute of International Affairs and they both called them the "useless eaters."  Those who didn't produce and consume in the society would have no place in the society. We find Charles Galton Darwin in "The Next Million Years" plans out at least for the next 1,000 years and how they're going to bring the population down by using inoculations which would sterilize the male and the female, the introduction of new diseases through various means and even giving the female hormones to males to make them less aggressive, therefore they wouldn't fight the changes that would come.

You find today that the xenoestrogen levels in males and females is skyrocketing, mainly because of the introduction of plastic bottles. They made it very trendy for you to drink water out of plastic bottles and they give off xenoestrogen. They knew this back in the 1950’s that this would happen.

Black Krishna:  Wow. I drink tons of water from a plastic bottle and I have to admit I'm pretty chilled out. But Mr. Alan Watt at cuttingthroughthematrix.com I'd just like to ask you for people out there who are listening to this interview. Is there a way they can keep the culture they're familiar with, they learned to love and not be affected by its toxicity?  Perhaps if they listen to your podcast on their way to work and they kind of get the big picture then maybe they can look at these kinds of these things from a fresh eye and keep certain ideas and throw out the rest because they lead to global government and enslavement of humanity. So I'd just like to ask if you can see sort of a middle ground where people can keep the culture they've learned to love?

Alan:  You see culture is given to us. That's the problem. In every age we get a culture given or updated for the present time or the industry or whatever it happens to be. I mean I've been involved in the music industry for years and I know what's getting pushed and why they push it, because they tell you what they want, even gender-neutral songs, so believe you me, there's no such thing as even a free music industry. The writers know exactly what they're supposed to write about and not write about, so you've got to really sort out what is real within your culture.  I tell people that basically this is a war of really the mass-man led by the global elite against the individual. If we can regain our individuality and accept the tolerance – you have to be very tolerant to be an individual. People should be able to agree to disagree without any bad feelings. That's what being an individual really is, and the elite don't want individuality because you're unpredictable; and for a totalitarian efficient system, everybody in it must be predictable. That's why the incredible surveillance we're having today and the data collection on every single person. They want to know all about each one of you and how predictable you must be. They do not like individuality at all. Groups they encourage. Mass groups they definitely encourage and they will lead and fund, because it's easier to control the large groups than a few scattered individuals. Individuality really is what we have to start promoting.

Black Krishna:  Absolutely. I was an event, an anti-poverty rally on September 26th. 107 groups in Toronto got together through the events. Exceptionally boring, almost nothing new there, basically quotes from the mainstream media about what they want, sort of fudging around budget cuts and what not and those types of threats from the government. 107 groups in Toronto could not possibly get that little done, in my opinion, unless it was on purpose. Can you speak to this sort of “CI-Activism,” as I like to call it, of groups that are set-up just so people out there aren't confused into taking their natural concerns about a dangerous world and directing them in the wrong fashion?

Alan:  We do know that as far back as the 1800’s Britain that led the field in this whole respect, since they always planned ahead on a global scale, they knew when they introduced a new policy or something that would upset different people that, rather than have a grass roots organization actually come into being by itself, they would put out leaders and fund what appear to be grass roots organizations and then most people would sit back and say “That's great. Someone else is doing all the work for me,” and you sit back and then a few years later you look into what they've been up to and it's nothing like you imagined, it went off on a different tangent completely. These are the red herrings that they give us. They're very good at it. However, I do know and I got this from a guy involved in this particular incident.

He had complained loudly about the corruption in Ottawa and how the politicians all knew this global agenda was going on. They all knew that we were being sold down the river through amalgamation. The health care was to go out the window and all the rest of it.  He spoke out on the CBC about this and said something to the extent that we should all march on Ottawa and do some rather nasty things to the politicians, which is a “no-no” according to CSIS (and this fellow comes from Ontario). CSIS followed him to work everyday. He got used to meeting them. He took them coffee in the mornings and chatted to them, thinking perhaps he could wake them up too. One morning as this guy Brian was mentioning to them what was happening to Canada being sold down the river through the amalgamation, the CSIS agent says to him, "you don't understand, Brian. We want you to start a revolution. We want something to happen in Canada," and that's exactly what they do. Even the so-called patriotic groups are used. One day they will be used to start something so that the big boys can clamp down and tell the general public, “look, there are crazy people living amongst you and we've got to do something for your safety.” This is what they want to do and they have written about this in fact from the top.

Black Krishna:  Is there a way, Mr. Alan Watt from at cuttingthroughthematrix.com, for us to appeal to members of the secret government who don't want to see this through? The fascist boa constrictor will eventually trap all of us. We may be tracked and searched and drugged and chipped, and even the people on the inside to maintain control as they are increasingly asked to dehumanize the rest of us, and some resist, I mean they'll be caught in this too, won't they?  Can you see a way to convince them not to go along with this?

Alan:  Some of them on the lower fringes are beginning to see this already. They see that their own necessity of being with them will no longer be necessary in a few years and are beginning to panic about it. The ones that are higher up within the higher cabinets or ex-members of high cabinet positions, they are different. They believe they will always go on to higher positions within the United Nations and in fact some of them already have, but the lower members are beginning to panic. There's even people in the media now starting to question their role. They know darn well they've been there to fool the public for years and give us trivia and nonsense and some of them are getting in touch with me now, which is a good thing. It's a good sign.

Black Krishna:  Absolutely. My friends and I went to a Toronto Masonic Research Group open house meeting at University of Toronto on September 22. It was around 8:00 P.M. at the George Ignatieff Theater and one of the guys went inside. The rest of us were outside with a copy of Albert Pike's "Morals and Dogma" and we were filming a little documentary outside and then talking to some of the masons and visitors who came out to speak with us. One of guys was a National Post reporter who wrote an article that heavily referenced us being there, so that was a good sign.

With respect to the media, can you speak to how they are controlled? I think people know the media lies but don't know what the lies are, and so they get kind of confused and by sort of making up their own schizophrenic realities. Furthermore, when people hang out with nothing but liars they get paranoid, so they say to me: how do you know who tells the truth?  I'm say the same way I know my friends and family tell the truth. I hang out with them. I don't catch them in lies and then I trust them, people like yourself I've heard lots of times and you just don't sound like you're lying, whereas most people flip between different channels of liars and just assume you cannot find the truth and remain agnostic. Can you speak to the media control just so people get it clear once and for all?

Alan:  The media control – media means in the middle, remember, they are the middle-man. Up until 50 years ago and perhaps after 50 years, but definitely 50 years ago people were always suspicious about newspapers and moguls et cetera because they knew their history. They knew they'd always been used for propaganda purposes for different factions, but today people have forgotten that.  Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was the national security advisor to the president of the U.S. some years ago and who's still an adviser to the presidents, Zbigniew Brzezinski said in his book "Between Two Ages" he said, "the time will come through careful indoctrination that the general public will come to rely on the media to do their reasoning for them. They will give up their ability to reason for themselves and expect the media to do it for them,” and unfortunately, through careful and incessant and long-term propaganda they've been very successful in that way. That's why they keep major news anchormen there for 30 years, 40 years sometimes. You grow up with them. They're your father figure. They look right in your eye like Mr. Mansbridge does and would he lie to you? He's in your home every night at dinner time and you're taught to see him as a father figure – an authoritative figure that's impeccably truthful. It never occurs to the people that you're getting nothing but propaganda and you're being misled from the real truth, what's really happening in the world; and that's his job and all the other ones.

We saw the same in the U.S. with Dan Rather. They kept him forever and all the other big players, and Britain is no different. That's why they're paid such big salaries. People forget these guys are not telling you what they think about anything. They're reading a dummy board that someone else wrote for them and they're staring at a camera at the same time.

Black Krishna:  Absolutely. And with respect to the media, I guess it's hard to believe that they can keep their jobs if they are screwing up by lying everyday. You don't even keep your job at McDonald’s by screwing up the big mac everyday. How does that work in terms of their control by intelligence agencies? Do you see a separation?

Alan:  Oh no. The U.S. was more forthcoming about having agents within all major media outlets, including the telephone companies. Britain also came out years ago with the same statements. In fact the BBC remember, the British Broadcasting Corporation, the grandparent of the CBC and even the China broadcasting stations now, because they run them as well, the BBC for most of its time never hired anyone, any employee in any level that did not come from Eaton. They wanted to keep it within a certain class control where they believe that they'll all go along with the same agenda; and I think that still stands today, they’re all from Eaton, to make sure they keep centralized control with all news to the British people.

Black Krishna:  In Canada, do you have specifics for our listeners that would reflect – I mean some of the people that they see, some of the news networks that they see, are there better ones, worse ones, either more controlled ones or all they all sort of aware of the same game they're playing and how they define the two sides of an argument that are missing key facts?

Alan:  You've got it right on there. They always give you two sides. They give you the two sides of every argument that you're supposed to see so that you don't see the third side, the fourth side, the fifth side and the sixth side. They always give you one or the other, the left or the right, or whatever it happens to be, and they give you your opinions. The general public will always pick between one or the other, a choice of two.  The CBC here – I had someone from the CBC who was going to do something for me, some artwork, and he was up there in a big department within the CBC.  He did a couple of things for me, very small things and he was going to do a lot more, and he also had a job at night for himself. He did the same kind of stuff with a whole bank of computers. His computers all went down. His boss called him into the office the next day and told him that if he had anything more to do with me he would be out of a job and his family would be homeless basically. So, believe you me, the CBC is totally controlled and they have lots of agents within it.

Black Krishna:  Right. It seems like they make some nods towards credibility by giving us one bit of truth, but propaganda, as I see it, Mr. Alan Watt from cuttingthroughthematrix.com, is what they all decide the push at once.  I remember just a few months ago the global warming hype was all pushed at once and even people who weren't watching news were freaking out on me about it calling me a Bush supporter instead of questioning it.  Then, as soon as Bush sort of caved a bit, they went “see, even Bush knows the global warming is real,” so they just literally repeated the nonsense in the media. Can you speak to how – what is the difference between propaganda and what is more likely truth in terms of the isolated stories that might contradict the big waves that are pushed everywhere so that people who are completely unrelated are all repeating the same thing?

Alan:  Once again what you've noticed is even here in Canada – and I was in Chapter’s Bookstore today and I just glanced at the green section and there's David Suzuki, a geneticist of course, who is also a true believer in eugenics, who loves furry animals but is not to keen on too many people, pushing the greening phase. He’s right next door to Al Gore's book. Al Gore that was just a front man for this agenda and ghostwriters wrote the book. Then you go back to The Club of Rome.  Now The Club of Rome is one of the premiere think tanks for the future. They come up with policies to direct society and they work out ways to market the ideas into the public's heads basically. In their own book The Club of Rome, the founders of The Club of Rome admit, and this book is called "The First Global Revolution" by The Club of Rome. You'll find in there (and I've got references in my website to it, I've read it out on the air before), they said: we tried to find ways to frighten the people into coming together globally and giving up their rights basically under a new world system. They thought of all the things that could terrify the public because they'd always used wars before for this very purpose, and going global means you have to find a new enemy. Eventually they said: we settled on a threat of global warming, which we will claim is caused by the public. That was written in the 1970’s.

Black Krishna:  Wow, okay, so this was planned since the '70’s, this is nothing new. It's funny, Mr. Watt, the fact that they started with global warming because it's scarier – I mean if they’d started with climate change, I know here in Toronto I think most of us would have laughed our butts off by saying “we've got four seasons you moron and climate changes everyday in Toronto, so better pack a sweater.” But now they switch from global warming to climate change. Do you see any cracks in their approach that we can I guess exploit?

Alan:  Oh yes. What's got me really amazed is to how, like George Orwell said, they take history and put it down the “memory hole” with every republication. You'll find that history goes missing in big chunks.  I can remember going to school, and when I was about seven years of age we got geography and they were telling us all about all the different mini ice ages that we'd go through and how they built homes in the 12th century without chimneys in Britain because they didn't need fires it was so warm, and then it went back into a cooling phase. We were taught this was all quite normal, going up and down like a yo-yo down through the centuries, but today of course they've removed all that from the books. They've got a generation who've grown up with massive propaganda and without the history of geography given to them, so therefore they think somehow we've always been the same up until now and it's suddenly changing. That isn't true at all. We go through these mini warming phases and freezing phases; and I say, what do you think is between ice ages? You have a warming period between ice ages; otherwise you'd have a constant ice age, wouldn't you?

Black Krishna:  Absolutely. It's ridiculous and we didn't cause the ice age either. That big climate change wasn't caused by SUVs or our individual carbon footprint; and frankly, Mr. Watt, I mean outside of the fraud itself, even in the mainstream, I questioned the Green Party provincial leader Frank de Jong on what the heck are they going to do with the money. I haven't seen plans for an $800 billion giant dust-buster to dust-bust the earth. It seems like they're just using our money to make money.

Alan: They are. There's no doubt about it. These are incredible boom times for these guys. They just pocket money left, right and center under a whole bunch of organizations they just happen to have a hand in themselves personally. This whole thing is about control. The UN has sent me the books on this stuff to get my opinion of them, of these books on the new domed cities they want to bring in: very small domed cities, habitat areas where the public will live. However, they want to separate the age groups within these domes and so you'll have one for the nursery, just like the science fiction writers are writing about in the 1950’s, and you'll have one for the working types and one for the elderly, where that's the exit type homes.  I talked to a top architect back in the '70’s in Toronto. Prince Charles is on this guy's polo team, so this guy is pretty wealthy. He showed me a domed city, a drawing that he'd done for it, and I said “that's Toronto in there, isn't it?” He says, “yes.” I said, “I see CN Tower in some of the streets, but where's the rest of Toronto?” He says, “It’s going to be a much smaller city by then,” and so what he meant was that the population was to be reduced.  I’ve all ready been sent some of these books on the domed cities from the UN associations to get my opinion on them and I haven't got back to them on it, but I think they get the gist of where I'm going anyway – it's not for me type of thing.

They want everyone to be removed from the rural areas, forced into these overcrowded cities initially, then you'll have a "Soylent Green" type of scenario where we're all crammed together in a big bunch of pollution. Then the elite themselves will live like the Soviet bureaucracy did with their dachas off in the country and their butlers and servants. That's to be the new type of system. Those who work for the system itself in the bureaucratic field or the educational field or the policing field will have their own special habitat areas, high-tech and outside of the major cities. That is the future they have planned.

Black Krishna:  Unbelievable. Most of these people are fairly isolated anyway right now. I don't think they have real friends, just competitors at that level and competitors can move up in this global scheme, so they don't really care about people as is, so this doesn't seem like much for a lot of the super rich. But back to the environment and the environmentalists. I'm afraid that I've got a few friends especially here in Toronto that want to do their part and they want to take a bag to work and not use plastic bags, and grow more efficient this and buy more efficient that, and pay $8 for a light bulb and all this nonsense. Can you speak to this sort of history of the environmental movement, because I have to remind people that when I give them a sentence that sort of shatters that world view it may not be enough to beat 25 years or propaganda, but hopefully it opens up their minds to sort of asking more questions on their own every time they’re sold something new.

Alan:  The main environmental groups were set up prior to World War II. That was the main tenant, remember, of Adolph Hitler by the way; and before him in the 1800’s, Blavatsky in London who started the first sort of female lodge at the time that became mixed. That was theosophy. They also pushed this Lebensstrom type idea, the living space for the right people, and nature conservancy came into it big time. In America and Canada the field was funded from the beginning by the Rockefeller Foundation, because, after all, if you want to control people and behavior, you always alter their environment around them. That's the first thing you learn as a psychological motivation. You must alter the environment and therefore how do you alter it. Well you own the environment. You make the rules for the environment and then the people will comply and adapt to the new rules until they're eventually adapted all the way into these little habitat areas, which are, just as I say, going to be overcrowded cities for a while until the population is reduced drastically.

Remember, we're talking in long-term plans here. We find Charles Galton Darwin, as I say, in his book called "The Next Million Years" he said that himself. He said this will take a 1,000 years to complete with creating a new type of human being to me a more efficient slave, and he had no problem calling them slaves. He said, "we've always had systems of slavery in one form or another and we're simply making a more efficient one,” so they’re looking at long-terms plans.

Now the war on terror is the main big stick to bring all of these changes for the whole “High Masonic agenda” we'll call it into being. Under this war of terror we found guys like Donald Rumsfeld said this might take a hundred years, so he's also talking about a complete change in all cultures, all ways of viewing life, a completely new ordered efficient type of society where no one would be born unless they have a job for you to fulfill, a function for you. You won't be born if they have no need for you. That's what they call “efficiency,” and they have written about this. Lord Bertrand Russell also has written about it. They all belong to The Royal Institute for International Affairs, all of these players, and we find the Rockefeller Family since the early 1900’s started up the foundations to pay for all the non-governmental organizations that they would use to push this whole agenda forward, including all they greening type parties.

Black Krishna:  Unbelievable and people think with 100,000 plastic water bottles at the grocery store that separating paper from plastic is going to give their kids a better future, ridiculous. But again, it's what's out there and I think that Mr. Alan Watt at cuttingthroughthematrix.com that guilt is a huge part of it because so many people out there feel guilty; ignorantly guilty and want to do little itty-bitty things to sort of try and mitigate some of that guilt. Can you talk about how guilt is used as part of this, just so that people can understand that they can be empowered by not feeling guilty and by just simply looking up and seeing who really guilty people are?

Alan:  One of the best mentors on this whole thing was Jacques Ellul, and Jacques Ellul wrote many books. He worked for the big boys themselves. He understood mass-psychology and he was going through all the motivational factors that affect humans, the types of strong drives that can be utilized. He said at the very end of one chapter in one of his books, he said, "Don't forget that guilt is fantastic tool. It's also a very strong motivating factor," so the creation of guilt, that it's your fault. Remember what I said with the book "The First Global Revolution" by The Club of Rome, they said in there they would convince the public that they were responsible for altering the weather and they were talking about creating massive guilt complexes through repetitive propaganda and the use of slogans. Bertrand Russell also chipped in in his books and said they would use the same technique with guilt through repetition and slogans just over and over again.  Russell said “We shall bring in the biggest marketing companies onboard with our organization to market this idea to the public. “

Black Krishna:  Incredible. I just saw the cover of "Time" magazine's new global warming issue – they called it global warming, had a polar bear on the cover standing on broken ice, even though polar bears can swim. People can Google that. Go to SeaWorld.org and see they can swim for eight hours at a time, 100 kilometers at a time, on and on and on. All the science is bad for this, but it's a $15 book put out by "Time" magazine which nickel and dimes us to death in terms of what we can do to prevent global warming without sort of leading to the sort of end conclusion. The glaciers are melting. How much? The polar bears are dying. Well, how many? I mean they don't really finish sentences, so can you speak to the propaganda itself and how it's used so people understand when they hear something that they need to look for I guess the end of the sentence?

Alan:  Yes. They really have to switch off, to be honest with you—and I really mean this—the television is such a powerful tool for propaganda. It's right in your home, so when you go from station to station during news time you'll